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Ben Askren vs Ryan Thomas
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fj1200
3 years ago
Ben's stand up is very weak. He knows it too. Which in itself is a handicap. Did you see how he had a little mini convulsion when he got popped in the face, then rushed for the takedown? Bad sign, he has to at least get the stand up to a point that opponents will respect him on his feet. They all see this and will remember it if they meet him. I'm not so sure now that he will even win THIS tournament. |
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hellboy
3 years ago
silva and st. pierre would murder ben right now. ben is a great wrestler but thats only one aspect of the game. let ben develop and he could scare a lot of people. right now though ben is not even close to being a contender and cant compete with those guys, he may someday though.. |
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ab
3 years ago
He needs jiu jitsu work too. He was lucky to get out of that triangle, any jiu jitsu black belt would have submitted him. But He won and that's all that counts. Good wrestlers can go a long way in MMA, but not all the way without some kickboxing/tai boxing and bjj. Look what happened to Kolat. |
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UFC Guy
3 years ago
OK fine, you guys convinced me that Askren may not beat Anderson Silva (yet) but he would DESTROY George St Pierre bc Pierre would NEVER take Ben down in a million years and Ben would use his unorthodox wrestling style to thwart St Pierre's takedown attempts. Now all of you folks have to admit for crying out if you have watched St Pierre lately, he relies on takedowns then lays on his opponent exchanging pleasantries for 5 rounds, what a joker he has become! Ben would stop every takedown and reverse some of thoe attacks in Ben's favor then ground and St Pierre to death. All of you Askren haters out there will apologize to me someday, I promise you that!!! |
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zorba
3 years ago
Ben's showing a lot of promise, but wonder if hes getting to much praise to soon? Someone with a better triangle couldve put a hurting on him and someone who was a better wrestler and had better hips would never have been swept over when Askren was on his back. I was rooting for Ben the whole time but was also very nervous during the whole match. What I see happening soon is someone with a more rounded fight game and good hips goin up against Ben with a solid gameplan and giving him fits. We see it all the time. Im sure we'll see Ben improving his game, but lets not get the cart in front of the horse. |
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Outcast
3 years ago
I would have to say the call was ed and askren finally started showing he has been working on strikes all in all I loved this it showed skill levels from both sides. Havin the same style as askren i would love to grapple with him. Yes guys Ive heard the hype that he has his own style sorry Im 33 and been controlling guys the very same way for years. And i can tell you that Ive shut down almost all the wrestlers and ju-jitsu guys faithfully for years thats why Id love to roll with another python like askren. All in all bad call ref but great job guys! |
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Reid Worley
3 years ago
That was one crappy call. I'm 1000% sure that Ben would have sub'd him later anyway though. I was hoping to see more of a fight than that, but it is what it is. Thomas doesn't have the striking to beat Askren without getting taken down and his ground game is FARRRRRR inferior to BA. |
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primetime21
3 years ago
LOL! Askren is a GREAT wrestler but very ameaturish at MMA at this point. No doubt with the right training he can and probably will be a beast. He is lucky he didn't lose this match as he was nearly caught in a triangle choke twice and an armbar once, not to mention he exposed his back pretty bad on one occasion.... I would say he was behind in this round before the fight was stopped prematurely and would almost say it was rigged! Against a decent MMA fighter he will get owned. |
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Anthony Carter
3 years ago
yo cant really say he sucks at fighting, He just need more time in the octagon. |
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motor
3 years ago
Yeah, even though the call might have been a bit hasty, Thomas wasn't going anywhere, and he was surely on his way to being knocked out. In the video you can see that the ref was looking at Thomas's eyes. Apparently Thomas had closed his eyes. And we can see he stopped moving. That means he was well on his way to never-never land -- though maybe not quite there yet. |
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Anthony Carter
3 years ago
I would like to ad my input on Ben and silva. Ben is still just a newbie in this world of MMA fighting, at this stage I couldnt see ben fighting silva because silva has alot alot of fights under him. Once Ben starts getting some fight under him he would be more subjectable to this subject, but for now lets just see who's ass's hes whooping. Haha |
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Slug
3 years ago
It does't look so controversial to me. I've been caught by the same before fooling around one day after wrestling practice, and I can assure you there is no way out. Askren would have just cranked harder and harder and eventually Thomas would have been out. When you don't move (Thomas wasn't moving), the ref has no choice. And Thomas, a UFC vet, should have known that! Anytime you just freakin' stop when locked in a move like that the game is over. Period. Anyway, Askren was in complete control until that point. Oh, and the Silva vs Askren comparison is ridiculous. Different weights and different levels of experience. Askren will for sure be at Silva's level in the near future, but he sure ain't there yet. Askren is, of course, awesome! |
